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« on: June 02, 2008, 09:43:00 AM »

Taking off the DEEG badge here for a brief moment, and just speaking my piece as a "hardcore gamer".

So I read a whole bunch of various EG media from mags, to blogs, to various other websites.  Ever since the Wii hit it big, I've been hearing this clap trap going back and forth about the "casual gaming revolution".  I hear complaints in the wind about how money grubbing developers, are cashing in on the "new market of casual gamers", and are starting to no longer produce the "hardcore games".

For those that don't understand these ideas, or have had your head buried in the sand, akin to an ostrich, there has been a movement to make games that are more accessible to a broader range of people.  They're games that don't just appeal to frenetic fingered, Mountain Dew followed by a chaser of Red Bull swilling, ubergeeks.  And, before I rouse the ire of my fellows, I say that with all the best intentions, because I've lived the life of the "hardcore gamer".  Games like Wii Sports, Rock Band/Guitar Hero(yes, despite our own Dennis Badurina Jr.'s insanity it is a casual game), etcetera, fall into this land.  Even the ubiquitous World of Warcraft, was originally designed to triumph over the mistakes of the past entries into the MMO genre, and make a game that anyone could pickup and get into.  Everyone from the young, to your parents, to your hoary ol' grandma can now find a title to play.(My Grandma was a Ms. Pac-Man nut though, so I've never really had an issue there. *grin*)

Anyway, background provided, let me stop digressing.  To be honest, I'm THRILLED about the notion of the "casual gamer".  Many, many, moons ago, back when the internet was a DARPA project, IBM execs laughed at the notion that anyone would ever pony up the dough to have a "personal computer".  Along comes Apple, and WHAM, a few years pass and suddenly a home ain't a home without one.  A realm, formerly occupied only by the few, became the home of the many.  Now that wasn't completely the best of things, I have to admit.  We've gotten our noobs, pebkacs, id:10t's, and scrubs a plenty as a tradeoff.  But without the market, the field would not have advanced.

Now pushing the clock forward, we come to electronic gaming.  Goddess knows how near and dear to my heart this topic is.  I've played em going back to Pac-Man, Pong, and Smurfs on my Colecovision with 2600 adapter, out to now waiting with baited breath for SCIV, and praying that they release Ninja Gaiden II, on the PS3.  I've even, grudgingly, come to accept first person shooters, as a valid form of stress relief.  I've spent 10 hour stretches, busting through games, on the first night I've owned them.  I think the early Phantasy Star series, made the early Final Fantasy titles look like garbage.  When, I worked in a game store, which sported a LAN, I'd regularly stay after work, until the crack of dawn the next day, leveling up my first WoW toon on the shops PC's.  I've more than cut my teeth, and made my bones as a "hardcore gamer" for the past 20+ years.

All the people that are busy lamenting the idea that Electronic Arts has opened up a "casual gaming" division, need to take a BIGGER LOOK AROUND.  Many of us, who spend our daytimes as IT staff, would not have jobs today if the PC market had not come about.  If one genius had not believed in the idea that the common man and woman would one day have a computer as integral to their life as their refrigerator, stove, washer and dryer, or any other home appliance, we'd be out in the cold right now. 

Today, another group of geniuses, have said that electronic gaming entertainment should not frighten away those without intense and practiced hand-eye coordination.  They have simplified the controls, advancing them to easily accessible standards.  And yeah, so we won't get as many special FX extravaganzas, and gore laden killfests.  But its not all bad.  We get to give the next generation a musical heritage, and re-encourage music, when our schools put it on the back burner.  Oh, and the idea that they're learning hard rock, instead of boy band and pop trash warms my heart. 

This is just a transition phase my compatriots.  A chance to let others, who have been unable to understand the pleasure and wonder we've been able to connect to for 2 decades now, to join us.  Let them in.  Do not try to drive the emerging market back.  Electronic gaming fuels the development of computer technology like never before.  Down the road, if the industry keeps growing in leaps and bounds, when the noobs catch up, the doors will be open to making things we can only dream of today.

Ok rant over.  70 PVE geared afflock LFG for MrT, reg or heroic, pst. Smiley


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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 12:06:24 PM »

switch to alliance and we'll talk. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2008, 02:13:10 PM »

switch to alliance and we'll talk. Tongue

I hear "switching to Alliance" is the new term for "coming out".  Is that true?
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 02:23:46 PM »

that's entirely up to D. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2008, 12:52:28 AM »

Speaking as a hard-core gamer...

And I don't mean a hardcore e-gamer, but someone who cut his teeth on a pair of Careers dice (the version from the 1960's, with Uranium Mining and Space Exploration as the "high-risk" career tracks), played Scrabble, Monopoly and the rest with friends and family, and was on his High School's Chess and Math teams (and was awarded an actual Varsity Letter in Chess), who: played D&D (live, through the wee hours of most nights) and the old Willie Crowther text Adventure on the University's Dec-10 (spending two all-nighters in an annex room that had a white-board, just mapping the "maze of twisty passages, all alike" with a friend) when I was supposedly attending college; wrote programs in old-style Basic (with line numbers) to text-simulate a golfcourse, deal out four random bridge hands from a 52-card deck, and deal and play blackjack (according to the restrictive Las Vegas dealer rules); bought my first computer, an Apple //e, because I got tired of begging for computer time from my friends to play Wizardry; and now am thisclose to being somewhat of a Bridge "expert"...only two things keep me from becoming enmeshed in the current state of e-gaming technology:

1) I was never a fan of 1st-person shooters, and many many of the hot action games for a long time boiled down to that, and
2) there are just not enough hours in the day to let me devote enough attention to all the E-RPGs, and Sims that would interest me if I decided to devote the time to them.

I mean really...hard-core, hard-core. Like...give me a stack of the best games and a rig on which to play them (and people to play against), and come visit me every once in a while...cuz you'd never get to see me otherwise. So, having come face-to-face with my addiction, for the most part, I've given it up.

...the advent of "casual games" and the accessibility of them is nothing BUT a good, nay, GREAT thing for EG and gaming as a whole. We always knew EVERYBODY gamed...now that knowledge is being made more public. And opening up more vistas (no pun intended) for the industry, and the service people (like us) who tap into it.

Electronic gaming fuels the development of computer technology like never before.
At one time, it was military application that fueled computer technology development. Now it is so wound around the demand for better video presentation, faster polygon processing, faster poly-multiple random result generators, faster event/result processing and the like that e-gaming requires. Nevermind "like never before," without a doubt the gaming industry is the driving force behind innovation in computer technology. We certainly don't need any more IPSs to recalculate our 3D spreadsheets any faster.

But, even in WoW, everyone knows: The Internet is for Porn
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2008, 11:30:35 AM »

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 and was on his High School's Chess and Math teams (and was awarded an actual Varsity Letter in Chess), ...



My high school letter was from the math team    LOL


I actually popped over to the Electronic Gaming boards to see if anyone mentioned a WoW beta invite.  I rec'd one Monday, finished the downloading and patches, and found my hangouts empty.  Even the philosophers of Trade Channel are silent. 

Changing my main's character name to satisfy Blizzard was a bit of an identity crisis last night.  RPer looking to start something on either Beta server - I have a night elf hunter on one, and an undead death knight on the other so far.  All attempts to RP are ignored by others.  No one even cares I've continually poked the Lich King and emote trash talk at him     Cry

For the light!   I've always been 'out'     Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2008, 11:44:45 AM »

Sharon you are one of the fortunate ones to have a beta invite.  Grats! 
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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2008, 12:49:27 PM »

as am I. Cheesy

still trying to see the changes, soloing is interesting in DPS gear...I have to try it in tanking gear.

I'm also looking forward to trying to tank an instance with the huge changes to tanking.  when I have a clue about the changes, I'll post.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2008, 11:06:49 PM »

Also in the beta. My toons - ally tank and horde healer - are on Northrend.
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« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2008, 12:45:50 PM »

I'm recopying my main over to the Northrend server.  She's an alliance hunter in PvP gear.  I'll let you know the name once the copy is over in case I need to change it again.

It may be a misperception on my part, but the beta chars that have hit level 77 want to keep other players on their toes on the PvP server.   Good news is that the really nice set of gear I have kept me alive twice a good deal longer than I would have thought against a level 77 death knight.    The player made a tactical error - even though he was on a winged mount and waited until I was engaged in another fight, I can smell an orc's reek from half a mile away even when he's downwind.     Cheesy

The sad news is I wasn't thrilled with any quest rewards so far.  Maybe if I copy over a level 68, I'll see the value of the current quest reward items.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 08:12:09 AM »

My copies did have name changes -

On Lich King, just Deathly, alliance hunter

On Northrend, Limejello, horde death knight leveling in Hellfire right now  and Nottheface, same alliance hunter in PvE land.

Once my alliance shaman hits 68 and with 375 JC (now 67/370), I'll copy her over too. 
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 08:26:18 AM »

graft is my warrior with his name change... I forget, I THINK I'm on Northrend.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2008, 10:13:02 PM »

Are any of you lucky souls playing Paladins?
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