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[Dr. Steed]

"You misunderstand," Steed says. "I meant to say that Yuri is one of the first people I'd ask to assist on such a project. His work on the Unified Circuit and comparative Genres picks up very closely to where my work left off, and he's made strides in those fields that I could well have missed. As such, it would be folly to exclude him form this project.

"As for the rest... once a Frame of Reference is entered into the Nexus, it becomes a *part* of the Nexus. Ghostrock. MOGWIPs. Banana University. Chiba. The Spheres of All and Void. Even if we tried, I don't think we could remove *all* of these from the Nexus. I believe that, based on the fact that Frames of References are permanent, that we can construct a variant on the Territory Eradication Cubes that would work on Domains without disrupting the metastasis of Nexal FoV."

[Dragontologist]

Felegro sighs.  "You need to check your assumptions on this frame of reference thing.  Frames of reference are NOT permanent - not every being who enters the Nexus has a strong enough Frame to maintain themselves, and thus dissipate without becoming realized.  My Frame of Reference has changed since arriving, as well - and yours has, too, or you wouldn't be so calm about, uh, the voice in your head."

"Furthermore, all matter in the Nexus is just another small part of the Nexus formed by the energy framework of a Frame of Reference.  Domains are not Nexal energy held up by a framework - they are part of the framework itself.  That's why Domains produce resources - they are the physical results of imprinting your Frame of Reference on small parts of the Nexus.  Look, long story short here, if you want to build something to destroy domains, go ahead - but test with your own domain first.  I don't expect to see you around afterwards."

[Dr. Steed]

"All right - let's assume that you're completely correct. What are the other options?"

[Dragontologist]

The tree looks a bit relieved.  "Let's start with the assumption that we cannot destroy or get rid of the beings in the domain without interacting with them.  They are Avatars of varying ability, but there are a number of lords and even some Ancients.  That means they can overwhelm us on every scale - even possibly overwhelm the overarching frame of reference that dictates the basic reality of Proper.  At current, the only thing preventing them from getting out is the wall of territory seeds - and that's the same thing that's keeping us out.  Eventually, the wall will break down, and I don't intend to wait around for it to happen.  We have to prepare, and we have to act first."

He takes out a notebook, flipping a few pages in.  "I need, NEED, to have a battle plan.  First and foremost.  I refuse to hold peace talks until we are sure we aren't about to be slaughtered.  We can't survive against their strength, if they attack in force, so we need to split them up and make them unable to use their full ability.  We need something that can outlast them, something that we can hold communications from.  We need a fortress.  We need a moat - or the equivalent, anyway - to prevent those we don't want from getting in.  We need walls that will stand attacks from technologists far more experienced than yourself, and magi with rituals, and defenses against mental manipulation and possession.  Heck, we need to make sure we can differentiate between us and our clones.  But more than any of that?  We need a leader."

[Jon Stone]

Over the past few minutes Jon has slowly sauntered over, finally standing just a few feet away as Felegro talks..

"You know Fel, I've been doing some thinking.  Out of the entirety of the active Nexus no one else is nearly as terrified of these new Avatars as you.  Why do you assume slaughter Fel, something you should share with the class?  Also, I hate to scare you, but we have a leader.  His name is Yuri, and you're clearly blind to not see that he's already organizing us, setting priorities, and trying to do research and recon, all while maintaining enough composure and dignity not to flay you alive for: A) starting all of this and B) being a huge, whiny dick about ever move every one of us makes.  I don't care what you do, but I heard your rant and I had to say something."

He takes a drag off his cigarette and calms down, "Sorry if I set you back Steed."

[Dragontologist]

"I assume slaughter because I know what they're capable of," the tree replies unkindly.  "If I am wrong, there is no harm, and if I am right, then we need to act as if we are under seige - which we are.  There are three HUNDRED Avatars in that Domain, and those numbers have far more power over the Nexus than our small group.  The only way to have enough power to fight it is to work together, to have someone or some group leading the entire Nexus.  Whatever Yuri is doing it isn't leading; he's doing what he feels like.  It may produce action, but not cohesive action.  We need to work together and produce something - and produce it now, not when it's too late."

[Trafalager]

OCC:  Oopps sorry its from the wrong account.  It was a late night studying.  my bad.


Jon shakes his head sadly.  "God Fel, I feel so bad for you.  You're so f****** twisted, even I'm still saner than you.  Let me try and spell it out for ya Big Guy.  Everyone who's remotely important came to you with questions, specific questions, that you either didn't answer, or answered by demeaning them.  Then you spelled out how YOU wanted things done, but DEMANDED someone else "Lead" and do it.  So basically, YOU wanted to lead.  Problem is the 80% of the things that you say are paranoid garbage, and everything you touch turns to s***, so no one is about to follow any plans you concoct."

Jon stops and takes a drag, then continues, "Look around Fel, you're the one who's out here alone, you're the non-cohesive action.  Felegro, more is happening than you could possibly imagine, you're just not invited to the party."

Jon suddenly shakes his head, "You know what? No.  Forget it.  Sorry, I had time to kill before my appointment and I love to instigate.  Fel," he pauses and thinks for a moment, "just, what ever, go do your thing."

Then he turns and starts to walk away.

[Dragontologist]

"If I'm the only one who isn't doing what I see being done, then I'm proud to not be in that particular party.  Follow me or don't, but don't complain to me when the shit comes down on your head.  Steed, I'm off to build things; if you'd like to discuss more you can help."  Felegro walks off again.

((Eventually going off list, but I'm sure Jon has more to say))

[Jon Stone]

As Yuri's announcement plays for the 3 Avatars Jon smirks a little at Felegro's back.

"Well I guess that punctuates my point nicely, I think I'll exit here."

And Jon turns to walk away.

[Dr. Steed]

"If I'm the only one who isn't doing what I see being done, then I'm proud to not be in that particular party.  Follow me or don't, but don't complain to me when the shit comes down on your head.  Steed, I'm off to build things; if you'd like to discuss more you can help."  Felegro walks off again.

Steed has kept pace with Fel throughout.

"I have already 'built things'," Steed says, a tad annoyed. "I could reduce the Domain to vacant space with one shore-to-ship hail. My concern is the backlash that would have on the Nexus and on you," he says pointedly. "Look up there," he says, pointing to a light in the sky. "That's the Alexandria. Fitted to her bow is a modified navigational deflector.

"Do you think my research into Nexal Gravity ended with the Mass Driver? I've pushed far beyond that envelope. The Alexandria's deflector can project a gravitational effect that makes my rifle look like a pop-gun by comparison. A ship-mounted Gravitic Cannon - the ultimate weapon of last resort. And, by my order, she's targeting your Domain and all the dangers within it."

He steps in front of Fel, raises his helmet's visor, and stares him in the eye. "I recommend you give up this 'me against the Nexus' angst crap and start working with those of us who know what would happen if yet another hole was ripped in reality."

He slams down his faceplate and crosses his arms. "If I can learn how, so can you."

[Tor]

"Go ahead, John. Reduce the damn place to base atoms. At this point, Fel can reap what he has sown." Stepping out from Steed's shadow, Tor smirks. "Fel, I know what you feel like you must do. But right now, you are beating the hornet's nest with a stick. You are going to be stung. Listen to Andi, she loves you and is only trying to help you. Others will not be so nice in telling you that you are going about things the wrong way. There can be more than one answer to a problem. And it doesn't have to be your way or the highway."

[Dragontologist]

He makes a shrugging motion.  A few browning leaves shake loose and fall slowly to the ground.  "I'm not going to follow the pack just because they think I'm wrong.  It's never been me vs them, it's about coming with a plan that works and implementing it.  The thing is, making friends with terrible monsters is probably not the best idea Yuri has ever had.  Since a failed plan may mean the end of my existence, as you have said, Steed, I have a lot of stake in making sure no mistakes are made.  Preparing for war means we're prepared if peace doesn't work.  Preparing for peace means getting stomped when it fails.  Anyway, I'm off to put things in motion.  Steed, you are still welcome, as I still have a few ideas that tech may be better suited for.  Tor, you're welcome to get my advice on rituals before ignoring me and doing something stupid anyway."

[Tor]

"If you had been around for the Ghostrock ritual, and if I hadn't come in at the last second, maybe something stupid wouldn't have happened. But since I'm not doing a ritual for this problem, your council on the matter is pointless. Anyway, when I create a ritual, it works fine." Tor heads towards the Council Chambers as the tree shambles off

[Dr. Steed]

Steed stands down and falls into step behind Fel. "It's a start," he whispers.

Clearly, he says to Fel, "I have the last resort in place. If there is no other option, I will use it. I don't want to, but I will. That said, we require the knowledge of several Avatars. Are you prepared to collaborate?"